Mar 26, 2007

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Chav culture sounds like watered down 90's American B-Boy culture (without the dancing)...

oh those Brits, always a decade late. Lily Allen's cool though.

7 comments:

François Luong said...

They're more like the UK equivalent of white trash or wiggers. I'm thinking about the characters Duke and Slasher from the movie Layer Cake.

François Luong said...

Which reminds me, I actually helped a chav chick find a *gasp* dictionary yesterday. Complete with obnoxious gold earrings, Croydon facelift and tacky dress. I kept punctuating all my sentences with "lass" or "lah," spoke with my (me) best fake English accent. She did not budge.

John Sakkis said...

white trash sporting burberry?...i don't think so.

wigger, sort of, but wigger denotes poser. chavs aren't posers, they're actual street urchins. lily allen is a chav-poser though.

american watered down b-boys because of the track suits, leggings tucked into socks, athletic sneakers (usually nike or reebok), their gaffling ways (or as some of the lamer b-boys in the east bay used to say "bageling", in other words, stealing ass kids)...on the east coast in the 80's chavs were called "stick up kids" or "tommy's kids"...in the bay area we used to call them "gear heads"...

chavs are basically american street kids with english accents.

François Luong said...

Well, chavism is not really a British phenomenon. Kids from housing projects in track suits and other gaudy apparel have been around Europe since at least the mid-80s. In France, it was mostly the Maghreban kids from HUD neighborhoods, also wearing Reebok Pumps or Air Nike with the matching flashy tracksuit. That was 1989. They called "caillera" on that side of the Channel, which is street slang for "racaille" (scum). There was also a bunch of white kids trying to imitate them back then, the majority of them also living in the projects.

I also saw a bunch of similar kids when I was in Loughton (Northeastern London suburb) in 1992, Cologne in 93 and back in Ruislip (West End of London) in 1996. But yeah, it's mostly from the influence of American pop culture. No argument here.

John Sakkis said...

yeah, that's sort of my point. suddenly "chav" is all over the place (last 2 years)...but really, what's new about it?

François Luong said...

Music execs looking for the new grunge?

John Sakkis said...

grime.