Mar 15, 2008

Rev. Wright

is this douche going to cost Obama the race? i mean, i could see it happening..."God damn America" coming from Obama's "spiritual advisor"? yikes...i'm not on the fence, i know who i'm voting for, but for the people on the fence i could see how this is a deal breaker...even though Obama has "categorically denounced" the statements he hasn't specifically addressed them...i don't know, this isn't good news, this is really bad news...a lot of people associated with both camps have been fired or asked to step away from the campaigns after playing the race card, Ferraro's "Obama's campaign is where it is today because he's black" being the latest example on the Clinton side...and while many of the firings/ resignations have been a bit reactionary (see Ferrarro) i think Obama needs to definitely "fire" Rev. Wright, quit that specific church congregation and nip this political SNAFU in the bud (it was going to be an issue sooner or later, while those viral emails going around were mostly bullshit, the church is just a little fucking weird, i've been to their website, you should too)

i guess the case could be made that because Rev. Wright has retired as pastor and leader of that particular congregation there is no need for Obama to quit the church, that distancing himself from the Reverend is enough...but, i would say take a look at those sermons they've been playing on CNN everyday this week, you can find them on YouTube...for Obama to even be associated with a church where the parishioners (on Christmas day) are standing on their feet clapping and hollering in approval of "God damn America" is a political catastrophe waiting to happen.

thoughts? Logan?


from the AP (yahoo news)

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

In a 2003 sermon, he said blacks should condemn the United States.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."
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2 comments:

Logan Ryan Smith said...

Well, the thing I think people need to recognize is that nearly ALL attacks against Obama from Clinton, McCain, or the media, or often not actually about something Obama did, but something somebody he knows did. They can't find anything he's actually done wrong, so they bring into question and criticize those around him. If Tracy Morgan, on SNL last night, can grasp that very obvious point, then I think most Americans can, too.

I think the media is running with this way too much. I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but since Clinton whined about the media not being fair to her, they seem to be over-compensating with going on and on and on about any kind of BS that's meant to put Obama in a negative light.

Reverends say weird things all the time. CNN doesn't seem to making such a big deal out of McCain's pastor saying "What happened in New Orleans was God's judgment coming down on a sinful city". They could beat that horse to death, but they ain't. They could also bring up McCain's "I hate gooks" statement. But they ain't. They could also remind Americans about WHITEWATER, or, hey, how about remind people that Hillary Clinton was a Young Republican, or why not do relentless fact-checking on her statements about NAFTA or her "experience"-- they ain't.

But, anyway, this is all about the Independents. Clinton has her supporters who will not, at this point, waver, as does Obama. And I just can't see how Independents could be swayed because of something either McCain's or Obama's ministers have said.

Lastly, I'll just say, too, that Reverend Wright's reactions were valid. Saying what he said was an angry reaction to way this country has been run and the history its created for itself. They sound weird coming from a "man of god" but all "men of god" say weird things. Even in "normal" churches. But, even if one wants to claim these kind of statements have no place in a church, then it just needs to be repeated that these sermons were not the norm. They were the product of an amped up, angry reverend.

So, basically, CNN is making it sound like a deal breaker, and they just won't let it go, apparently, but I don't think it'll make all that much difference.

Obama knows how to deflect these kind of attacks that are trying to make him sound guilty by association. And all he has to do is say, "That's not me. I didn't say that. And I do not agree with it, and I don't condone it." And he does that. That should be enough.

As for should he ditch his church? No, I don't think so. That's stupid. We don't get to pick the future president's parish. And Rev Wright is retiring, so, it's just not a necessary action, I think, even politically.

2:28 PM
Magie said...

We are like one person love. I swear, I just had this exact discussion/worry/comments with my Dad on Saturday. I brought it up...because I'm worried about the same thing. And I realized how really, really bad this looks. I hope it doesn't sway people away. Go Obama!
Go Johnny!

7:01 AM

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